Black on Black
R107 or R129?
Photography from Roy Spencer
January 2007
If you are contemplating the purchase of any SL, be sure to consult the massive ourSL.com Mercedes SL research database. Tips and advise found there can save you thousands of dollars when buying an SL.
One of the most oft asked questions by ourSL.com visitors is whether one should buy a R107 chassis 560SL or a R129 chassis 500SL/SL500 . That’s a very good question due to the fact there is a serious value overlap between good 1986- 1989 560SL s and the 1990 and later 500SL/SL500s. A mint low mileage 1988/ 1989 560SL can sell for about the same as a very nice 1999/2000 SL500. We see this regularly with our own inventory. What gives?
Well, we just happen to have in our current inventory a perfect example of this situation, a mint 1988 560SL and a mint 2000 SL500 Sport edition. Interestingly, both have about the same mileage, 55k to 58k, and are priced essentially the same, around $30k. And both are the same color/trim combination, Black(040) exterior with Black(271) leather. There they were sitting side by side in the warehouse just begging to be compared! Let’s grab some information from the ourSL database and have a look at the cold hard facts.
| 1988 560SL (R107) | 2000 SL500 (R129) | |
| Engine type: | 5.6 liter 16 valve V-8 | 5 liter 24 valve SOHC V-8 |
| Net horsepower: | 227(!) hp | 302 hp |
| Acceleration 0-60mph: | 8 sec | 6.1 sec |
| Top speed | 137 mph | Electronically limited to 155 mph |
| Transmission | 4 speed automatic | Electronic 5 speed automatic w/driver adaptive control |
| Rear axle ratio | 2.47:1 | 2.65:1 |
| Tires | 205/65 VR-15 | 245/40 ZR18 front and 275/35 ZR18 rear (cool!) |
| Wheelbase | 99″ | 99″ |
| Height | 50.8″ | 51.3″ |
| Width | 70.5″ | 71.3″ |
| Length | 180.3″ | 177.1″ |
| Weight | 3705 lb | 4125 lb |
| Price as new | $63,020 | $93,195 |
| % value retention (based on $30k 01/2007 value each car) |
48.5% | 32.5% |
Scanning the data, you get the impression these cars are on different planets from a performance standpoint! Aside from some heaven sent notion that every SL should sit on a 99″ wheelbase, these cars couldn’t be further apart. In today’s power crazed high end European automobile world, the 560SL’s statistics look fairly pathetic. Geez, the thing only makes 227 hp. Your neighbor’s clapped out 1994 E320 wagon makes about the same power. Ok, I’ll admit the V-8 generates 50 more ft/lbs of torque. And 15″ wheels, that’s downright prehistoric! Your 22″ “DUB†wheel-crazed kid would be embarrassed to ride in the thing!
The differences don’t stop there. While a 560SL owner will fairly wrestle the hardtop off using an array of tools, handles and pawls, our SL500 owner merely extends one well groomed finger to gently press one button to release the hard top, which by the way, weighs 20 odd pounds less than the 560′s. That same well groomed finger will press the red button in the opposite direction to set in motion the silent ballet that is the erection of the newer car’s finely engineered soft top.
Risking a dislocated shoulder, the 560SL owner must cajole, tweak and swear the soft top into its erect position.
Unknown to most of humanity, the 560SL just might owe its very existence to the unforeseen development time needed to perfect the vastly complicated technology for the power hard and soft top mechanisms featured in the 129 models. Remember, a Mercedes model’s usual lifespan had been historically about 8 years. The 107 was constructed from 1971 (very early European 450/350SLs) to 1989, an unprecedented 18+ year model run!
Inside, the 560SL is a model of simplicity with manual seats, fixed steering column, manual passenger outside mirror, fussy seatbelts, and a massive steering wheel. ABS and a single airbag are the only links to today’s safety technology. It really is a step into the past, back to about 1973 actually.
The SL500 is jammed with cool stuff. We see dual airbags, nicely integrated seatbelts (anchored directly to the magnesium seat frames!), tilt and telescoping steering wheel and, get this; power seats! Wow! And there are acronyms galore to keep this SL poised at speed: ADS (adaptive damping control), ASR (Automatic Slip Control) and my favorite, ESP (Electronic Stability Control). I have a few lady friends that would benefit from that last bit of technology.
Eyeballing the two cars brings their different characters to the fore. The bulgy fat tired SL500 seems to discreetly tell you, “yeah, I can be a bit of a bully so don’t #*&% with meâ€. The 560SL, however, oozes an urbane sophistication pretending to be nothing more than its understated styling suggests; a superbly constructed, handsome icon of the ‘80s that is once again becoming a “cool†car to own. Just today, a 20 something year old fellow stopped by the ourSL.com headquarters to ogle the black 560 featured here. He was just a toddler when the 560SL was the big daddy of the European boulevard top down cruisers and now he wants to own one!
To understand the appeal of the 560SL, we must look beyond the bald performance facts and technical gizmos this car lacks when measured against the over-the-top 129 cars. There is the intangible factor of a generational identity with these cars that has raised values and demand. The 560SL was THE automotive statement in the late ‘80s that shouted, “I’ve made it.†Many of the buyers who are paying attention to the 560SL today remember the lust they felt for that car when it was new. Today they have a few extra bucks and will buy a nice example.
I should mention the #1 reason clients give for preferring the 560SL over the vastly superior SL500…chrome! Do you remember that stuff? It was pretty common from about 1929 until 1990 and then, poof, it just about disappeared. Look at the 560 and you’ll see plenty of it. Actually, much of the brightwork is polished stainless steel that gleams just like chrome. People love the face and tail of the 560 because of those jutting rubber encased polished SS bumper structures initiated during the Nixon era and the traditional gleaming grille surround. It’s a look that was burned into their brains during the overlong production period of the 107 series.
While these 107 enthusiasts may not realize it, they also subconsciously appreciate the fabulous build quality of the 560SL . Every item you touch has a robust, finely engineered quality. And the sound of the 560s door closure brings to mind the image of an automobile chiseled form a block of granite. Not so with the SL500 or even a sparkling new SL550. And all the performance gains of the SL500 are largely a moot point. Where can you use that car’s extra power and massive tire grip? You’d have to be damn obnoxious to begin powersliding the 129 around the neighborhood.
After all my ranting, you’re probably wondering which car I really prefer? Contrary to market trends, I’ll take a Sport edition SL500 over any 560SL. You see, I have to admit to a trace of bully lurking under my placid Yogi-like exterior.
Roy Spencer, editor www.ourSL.com








6 Responses to “2000 SL500 Sport or a spotless 560SL – Which would you prefer?”
Nice article but though I’m perhaps biased as a 107 owner, I can think of two things which could sway buyers toward this model.
Although a high tech auto for its day, it is still a car which, with study, can be understood and repaired by a hobbyist or shadetree mechanic.
I can’t imagine a more fun car for the money. I receive more compliments and comments from strangers than I could imagine getting in a 129.
The scale-tipper for me — if the plan is to actually *drive* the SL rather than put it away and just drag it out for the occasional Concours D’Elegance or Benz rally — is safety.
As much as I love the 107, the 129 is both more capable of avoiding an accident — with better handling, better brakes, and ABS — *and* allowing the driver to walk away from one, especially without the hardtop attached.
Not saying the 560SL is unsafe; I just don’t know that I’d trust a 20-year-old air bag. And I shudder at the thought of watching a loved one going through the windshield while I nestle into a pillow on the steering wheel.
Roy: Very nice article about two SL’s. I just happen to one one of each. A 1972 350SL and a 1993 500sl. Both are beautiful cars and each must be appreacitied in there own way. While the 129 car is technically advanced. The 350SL is built like a bull and can be worked on by mere humans, without very large pocketbooks. Ahh just replaced the EZL box on the 129, Mercedes Price $3,208.00 Oh and nobody reproduces those things! In the near future I’ll invest my money on the 107. Tom
Roy, loved your article….
I purchased a 2002 silver arrow 2 years ago as a gift to myself, and while i find the body style of the 107 utterly pleasing to my eye, I THOROUGHly enjoy my 129, and plan on keeping it for a very long time indeed. It’s listed in my will as being left to my two grown sons to figure out who gets it, and sometimes, yes, I watch my back! (LOL)
I’m a small 52 yo woman who gets a thrill out of what this solid-as-a-rock, sweet ride can do just for the asking. Living in the congested northeast, I yearn to take it on a long road trip so it can stretch its legs a bit. I’m thinking Tennessee….it begs.
Keep up the great writing,
Nancy
Hi Roy,
i love the “block of granite” so i already own one as a keeper if the accountbalances allow these for the future. A R129 for the daily drives because its a comfortable real sporstcar in my mind, and will be a keeper to in the near future too……
Great article from yours.
Could you maybe send me the pictures of these article to my email??
Would be great & thanks upfront from an german car & SL enthusiast.
It`s always nice to spend some time on ourSL.com, a great website
Markus from Germany
I very much enjoyed reading your comparison article; though, I must admit that owning a well-preserved, Mercedes-Benz serviced one owner (1989) 560SL, I am very much biased in favor of the R107 560SL. (I’ve also owned five other R107,s, mostly in the 1980′s & the early 1990′s.)
While the R107 series has been with us since 1971, with the second longest running series run in the history of Mercedes-Benz (the G Wagen is the longest running,) the R129 series has many years to go, before proving its mettle. Let’s not forget that the 1990′s was a “problematic” decade for Mercedes (under Jurgen Schremp) as well.
The R107, like the W113 which came before, has a distinguished, classic design and is a Mercedes icon, to boot. The R129 on the other hand looks dated; however, not old enough to be “charming” in the process.
Of course, the R129 series is more technologically advanced than the R107 series it replaced and have many more features (the removable hardtop on the R107 is a menace!); however, there is much more to the car ownership “experience” than simple features.
Is the R107 “dated?” Sure! The R129, in turn, looks dated compared to a modern variant SL… Such is life. While I’m sure an R129 variant would be fun to drive and is reasonably “modern,” I’ll keep my R107 560SL, just the same…
Thank you for your well-written, informative and fun read.
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